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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
我希望的那种感觉它好像没出来
这不就是immersive cinema吗！意大利山区风光看得太过瘾了，所有细枝末节都在画面里发生，却又没有放大和引导的视线。cinema with the capital C！导演说第一次去到这个洞的时候带他去的前洞穴学家往下扔了一块石头，深到什么也听不见，最触动他的是“that disappearance, that lack of response”。探索者在沉默的巨大存在之下的那种收敛、严谨、小心翼翼和静默在放大细节的声音设计里面做得淋漓尽致，不小心掉落的球让人觉得冒犯又亲近。只有头灯的照明环境和镜头的跟随，让缓慢移动的探照光束在已知和未知之间来回移动。最后云层深处传来的呼唤像丢进洞里的石头，一切完结之后又是谁在期待回应呢
一直很喜欢这部动漫，今天终于有了剧场版资源马上就看了，画风真的好了很多很多啊，脖子那里也没有阴影了，西条高人还是那么帅那么美丽，蠢太也还是那个发情天使哈哈哈
有几个小点我比较萌哈哈，蠢太“你很不对劲”的时候我超喜欢好吧，这种霸道的感觉嘤嘤嘤！太戳我了。不喜欢的是，为什么做什么事都要用爱的名义去搞一个很宏大的概念呢🤦♀️我觉得这点剧情不太行，不过我本身就是BL动漫的忠粉，所以四星啦
洞穴内摇曳的探照灯，湿润的穴壁，生命垂危的老人，旷野上的牛羊，飘散一地的插画。一种天人合一的感受。#Film Forum#
看的时候感觉生命力被一点点抽干，却又在听到片尾迷雾里老人的唤羊声时突然涌出……
为了你，我可能会不断离开，但我最终一定会回到你身边
他们怎么连裤子都不脱就结束了好有礼貌啊两位
两条线硬要联系只能用隐喻，整个探索的过程慢慢就没重点了
爱死蠢太和高人的爱情！真的是触动了心底里最柔软的部分！！
永远喜欢高人和蠢太。结尾配上bgm太好哭了，谢谢太太的故事。
必须给五分！！！！
崩到我要报警了｜这大概是一部角色和声优我都巨喜欢的bl作品 广树演绎的小高人简直绝上加绝 小野友也绝超可爱 所以崩了我也完全能接受｜但是也太他妈崩了都成ppt了好吗 制作组的钱是不是都拿来请横山克了😔
不太尽如人意，这车戏不就是PPT吗，结尾那段不错但是又太短了，我摊牌了我看bl不就是为了看两个人多一点甜蜜互动吗，这个剧情也不太行，当然感情是好的，片尾曲不错。
跳舞的片段让人稍微有点尴尬，但这样的双向奔赴真好啊！想要再去西班牙了，热情浓烈！呜呜也好喜欢副cp，希望有生之年也可以看到他们多多出镜。片尾曲好好听！“能爱着你的世界，痛苦又甜蜜，是如此美丽。”希望能够尽快遇到mi tesoro❤️
1.跳舞部分没有完整做出来太可惜了。2.幸好我不会西班牙语，不然肯定看得很痛苦。3.副CP是真的很香什么时候给他们单独开个番就好了。4.感觉他俩的感情问题（不乐于表达）还是横亘在两人中间没有解决，有点可惜。5.脖子下的阴影没了太好了！6.户外那段，虽然很短，看得我惊心动魄的。
很日式的含蓄、矫情、中二。但是很多地方制作得还是太潦草了，可以倍速看
洞作为影片呈现的内容是非常狭窄的，而片子本身的形式却是完全敞开的，这种反差很有趣
叙述设计颇有意思的 老人放牧与探险队洞穴考察 两条线索以最基础的平行剪辑交替 从看似无关到中段山洞交汇 之后随着进入洞穴的深度老人生病越来越重交替剪辑间隙越来越短直至到达洞穴尽头老人也最终咽气。但由于把探险引入自然影像也带了一个前作没有的问题：拍探险时镜头能先于人物吗？这个问题可以说是致命的 每每先于行动进入洞穴更深处的摄影机消灭了探险的所有意义 而这与作者试图让摄影机作为客观之眼的企图完全冲突 这一悖论恰恰指出了客观摄影机这个构想的虚妄。不过 在教堂休整睡在受难jesu身边的镜头堪比四次里面突然进村捉jesu的罗马士兵 有如神降。还有就是那些大远景真的很棒！踢球和牛闻画也是神来之笔
3.5。只能说预期完全错误：前半个小时对于山谷生活以及老旧黑白电视的精细聚焦，让人以为导演会用自然主义的手法在更广阔的维度探讨“洞穴寓言”。显然，生命流逝与洞穴探索过程的耦合虽稍显灵气，仍不免感叹美则美矣。声音当然做得非常精细。相比《四次》，导演放弃了在单一镜头内运用横摇做推进叙事的分镜，让整体美学更为统一。
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